Jamie Moyer (14-7, 3.86) gets the ball having never lost a game in Florida’s house, as the Phils try to make it two out of three against the Marlins.
Moyer has been near spotless against the Marlins, while his opponent, rookie Chris Volstad (5-3, 3.07) has pitched the Phillies tough. Lineups are posted: Charlie Manuel sticks with what’s been working, meaning Jayson Werth batting third, Greg Dobbs at third and Carlos Ruiz behind the plate. First pitch is 4:10 ET. Enjoy the rest of your weekend everyone.
Hats off to Cholly for finally seeing the light on this lineup. Dobbs has shown steady improvement on defense since he's been playing semi-regularly and he's 16 for 33 (.485) in his last 10 starts with 3 HR and 9 RBI.
The few remaining feeble arguments of the Feliz lovers are full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. The idiot wind.
Posted by: clout | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 03:51 PM
From the last thread . . .
KoolEarl: I believe the Giants extended Sabean's contract before this season. Sabean has done a good deal wrong as Giants GM but, if they didn't fire him after last year, they're not going to fire him after a year in which they made a full-scale commitment to youth and actually somewhat out-performed the very meager expectations.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:02 PM
clout- I'm with you on this one. Dobbs has shown considerable improvement in his fielding as he has played more often, and his offense is outstanding against righties. I also really like how Charlie has committed to splitting the lefties, it makes them a harder out, and with Utley's decreased power currently, it makes a whole lot of sense to have hitting second.
Posted by: B-Mac | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:04 PM
Props for the Faulkner and Dylan references
Posted by: PhillyBlunt | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:05 PM
I much prefer the concussed double-play machine version of Ryan Church that is killing the Mets than the one who was knocking the Phils earlier this year
Posted by: bensdad00 | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:06 PM
Mutts BP gave up another run - ATL down 4-3
Posted by: bensdad00 | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:08 PM
clout - Does this mean I don't have to keep drinking the Flavoraid© ?
Posted by: Andy | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:14 PM
Josgay Reyes 0-5 nice
Posted by: Ryan | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:14 PM
lets go fightins!
nice leadoff base knock, james
Posted by: redbeard | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:15 PM
effin chicken
Posted by: Andy | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:18 PM
PtB has to hurt them here.
Posted by: Andy | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:19 PM
nuts
Posted by: Andy | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:21 PM
Tie game in ATL.
Posted by: Andy | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:22 PM
What a weak effort after the Rollins lead off hit.
Burrell needs some pine.
Posted by: phReed | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:23 PM
kotchman "mistake" half-swing single ties up the game 4-4.
Posted by: bob | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:23 PM
4-4 in Atlanta.
Posted by: vegas | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:23 PM
5-4 braves
Posted by: phReed | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:26 PM
francoeur drives in a run - 5-4 Braves....
Posted by: bob | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:27 PM
frenchy with the trip!
Posted by: redbeard | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:27 PM
Francouer triples, 5-4 Braves
Posted by: B-Mac | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:27 PM
Mets bullpen is predictable, 4-5 now.
Posted by: vegas | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:27 PM
love the mets broadcasters - MLB.tv forgot to blackout the screen during the call to the bullpen after Frenchy's triple, and the Mets announcer (couldn't tell which one) says, "I told you they were going to score." Then they discuss who's coming up to bat for the Braves, truly fearing Chipper would be available to pinch-hit...
Posted by: bob | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:30 PM
You know, if the Mutts bullpen didn't suck, they wouldn't be losing this game right now.
Posted by: phlipper | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:33 PM
Bob: That's great. Hope some tech savvy baseball fan got an audio rip of that.
Posted by: John | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:34 PM
Just curious, clout,
Is there any particular reason that when you stated the Dobbs starting over Feliz would be the difference between a win and a loss, and I asked you numerous times what the Phils' record is when Dobbs starts vs. when Feliz starts, you ducked the question?
Oh yeah, and when you posted Dobbs' stats when he starts, is there any particular reason that you only posted his stats in his last 10 starts?
Posted by: phlipper | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:36 PM
Jamie Moyer, lol.
Posted by: The Theory | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:36 PM
Ruiz continues to give quality AB's. Get Moyer to bat here is good.
Posted by: vegas | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:37 PM
good ab cooch. turn that lineup over
Posted by: koolearl | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:38 PM
philipper: He probably ducked the question because it's irrelevant, since such a stat doesn't account for who pitches on either side -- typically an important aspect of a baseball game, and crucial to its outcome.
Posted by: John | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:38 PM
7-4 braves
Posted by: phReed | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:39 PM
Meltdown in Atlanta. Two more.
Posted by: vegas | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:39 PM
7-4 ATL!
Posted by: bob | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:39 PM
I asked clout the comparative records when they start against RHP, which is the only criteria that clout uses in his evaluation of whether Dobbs should start.
Clout stated that starting Dobbs vs. Feliz would be the difference between a loss and a win. I said that I think he's over-evaluating the value of Dobbs starting, particularly because he ignores any of the drawbacks of starting Dobbs, which mitigates the advantages.
Not a Feliz lover. Never said that Dobbs shouldn't start, at least sometimes, against RHP. Only said that I'm confused why clout has such a hard-on for Dobbs and such a vendetta against Feliz.
Posted by: phlipper | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:42 PM
Aaron Heilmann sending in two inherited runners. Lidge has competition for that MVP/CY award.
Posted by: Andy | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:44 PM
as ever, phils mvp heilman. i am half drunk
Posted by: koolearl | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:45 PM
Somehow the "nothing to play for" fill-in Cubs are winning today.
Posted by: EastFallowfield | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:46 PM
Thanks, Alf.
Posted by: Andy | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:46 PM
Woohoo.
Posted by: phargo | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:46 PM
looks like amezega missed a spot with the face paint
Posted by: redbeard | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:47 PM
koolearl - You're not drunk, you're drinkin'
Posted by: Andy | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:47 PM
way to double the play dobber!
Posted by: craig_one | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:47 PM
flipper - you are becoming a one-dimensional poster.
Posted by: Sophist | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:47 PM
redbeard - that's funny.
Posted by: Andy | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:48 PM
I'm just joking, flipper.
Posted by: Sophist | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:48 PM
Sophist - We could save his posts for the late innings against the other team's LOOGY.
Posted by: Andy | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:49 PM
yippee.
Posted by: Andy | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:50 PM
Delgado just del-got-it. 2 runs....7-6 ATL...one out. c'mon gonzalez.
Posted by: bob | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:50 PM
UTZ!
Posted by: redbeard | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:51 PM
Looks like the Mets got a couple back.
UTS!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Andy | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:51 PM
Utley. a HR? I didn't know he could do that.
Posted by: Sophist | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:51 PM
Chase! Finally!
Posted by: Ribbies | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:51 PM
Utley actively helping the team!
Posted by: Tray | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:52 PM
UT!
Posted by: vegas | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:52 PM
2 questions: if we won the East, who would we face, and should we be rooting for the Brewers to overtake the Mets - or shouldn't we be scared of Sabathia and Sheets getting into the playoffs?
Posted by: Tray | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:54 PM
Tray - LAD; no; yes.
Posted by: Andy | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:55 PM
swaying drunk sailor Gonzalez finally shuts down the Mets while throwing 30 pitches...nice for them, nice for us.
Posted by: bob | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:56 PM
Game over in Atlanta, Mike Gonzalez holds on and the Braves beat the Mets 7-6.
Posted by: B-Mac | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:57 PM
Too little too late for the Muts! Let's go Phils!
Posted by: Ribbies | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:57 PM
Division leaders for another day.
Posted by: bensdad00 | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:57 PM
It's over in ATL. In a good way.
Posted by: Andy | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:57 PM
I agree with Andy.
Mets lose.
Posted by: Sophist | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:57 PM
I get seasick watching Gonzalez pitch for Atlanta.
Posted by: vegas | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:58 PM
Mets 1-2 0 for 10. Ugh. I mean, I mean Yay!
Posted by: bensdad00 | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:58 PM
Mets 1-2 0 for 10. Ugh. I mean, I mean Yay!
Posted by: bensdad00 | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:59 PM
Jebus, Jamie, did ya have to do that? It's that "when we score we have to give the lead back thing." Again.
Posted by: Andy | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 04:59 PM
andy- the tv crew must be drinking as they showed 1 out when there was 0 & credit werth with the jack... anyome notices that burrell has been flying to rf a lot. i guess his perfomance anxiety is getting a bit better
Posted by: koolearl | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:00 PM
flipper: Give it up. Dobbs should start over Feliz vs. RHP, it's obvious to anyone who knows even a tiny bit about baseball. I needn't run through all the stats again. You're starting to embarrass yourself.
Posted by: clout | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:00 PM
So Mets go 4-6 in their last 10 games against teams that have 'nothing to play for'. Why are the Cubs going to be easier to beat again?
Posted by: EastFallowfield | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:00 PM
KoolEarl: They made 3 mistakes on the scoreboard last half inning: had wrong # of outs, had wrong count and had wrong guy (Werth) up when Uts waas hitting. Must've been an intern at the controls.
Posted by: clout | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:02 PM
Oh, how I love MetsBlog:
Comment by BigPelf4prez
2008-09-21 16:39:06
I HATE THE F’IN TEAM!!! THIS F’IN PEN F’IN BLOWS!!! THEY CAOULD NOT OHLD A LEAD FOR THEIR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!! HEILMAN GO TO F’IN HELLL YOU PIECE OF CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!! SEASON OVER!!! SHOOT THE WHOLE PEN!!!
Comment by Furioso
2008-09-21 16:55:02
So the divisional hopes are finished.
They’re fighting for the right to lose in 3 to the Cubs.
IF they manage to do even that
Comment by dazedandconfused
2008-09-21 16:56:38
DEAR. JERRY MANUEL
NEVER USE AARON HEILMAN IN A BASEBALL GAME EVER AGAIN!!!!
Posted by: Indiana Sarge | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:04 PM
Enjoy first place, probably for the rest of the year. I gotta get back to my less stressful other life for a little while. The NL should just forge ahead with 3 playoff teams this year and give the Cubs a bye
Posted by: Rollinsux | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:04 PM
Tight zone for Jamie.
Posted by: vegas | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:05 PM
Funny how there's been no cesspool overflow today. And the Mutts fans call us frontrunners.
Posted by: clout | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:06 PM
EF - Why are the Cubs going to be easier to beat again?
Random Mets Troll - because Mets rool baby!!
EF - But...
RMT - josejosejosejose...
EF - But...
RMT - yo, rollins is a homo and delgado baby ya!!!
EF - But...
RMT - sanatana is da man you a-hole (harharhar)
EF - This is really a stupid conversation.
RMT - see thats wot i mean you phithy phans R always callign us stoopid and stuff no woner anyone never comes on this stupid site
EF - Um...okay.
RMT - josejpsejosejose
(etc)
Posted by: Andy | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:06 PM
oops, while I was posting look what bobbed up.
Posted by: clout | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:07 PM
Nice hustle Jamie!
Posted by: vegas | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:08 PM
clout - "bobbed up"
Priceless.
Posted by: Andy | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:08 PM
That Volstad double probably knocked an inning off Moyer's day.
Posted by: Sophist | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:08 PM
loved seeing moyer turn it on there.
Posted by: craig_one | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:09 PM
man, look at moyer hauling arse to make the putout
Posted by: koolearl | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:10 PM
Metsblog is funny.
Comment by D-Day
2008-09-21 16:48:44
take everone in the bullpen, strap them to shea stadium after the season. and TAKE THE WRECKING BALL TO ALL OF THEM!!!!!!
Comment by Airfeet
2008-09-21 16:50:46
IF WE DONT SCORE 1 MORE RUN THIS INNING I MITE KILL SOMEONOE
Comment by dazedandconfused
2008-09-21 16:52:45
PHILLY TAKES THE LEAD AGIAN~~~~~~~~~` FU*CK THIS MOTHER*FU*CKING CUN*FACED BULLPEN!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Durbinator | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:10 PM
See. That's what I forgot in my faux dialogue: the Caps Lock key. (I'd never make a good Mets fan.)
Posted by: Andy | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:12 PM
chooch
Posted by: redbeard | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:15 PM
chooch turns over the lineup again!
Whens the last time he did that twice in as game?
Posted by: bensdad00 | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:16 PM
I see that viewing Metsblog has, again, become one of the favorite spectator sports for Phillies' fans.
Posted by: AWH the RBP | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:16 PM
haha codys 1st error
Posted by: redbeard | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:17 PM
More from Metsblog:
Comment by BigPelf4prez
2008-09-21 16:57:34
MIKE GONZALEZ MUST TO TO HE**!
Comment by dazedandconfused
2008-09-21 16:59:10
HEILMAN DOES NOT DESERVE TO MAKE ANYMORE THAN MINIMUM WAGE. HE PROB FAILED IN SCHOOL SOMEHOW PITCHED HIS WAY INTO THE MLB, AND EVER SINCE HAS BEEN WORSE THAN A 12 YEAR OLD!!!!!
Comment by dazedandconfused
2008-09-21 17:02:41
KILL YOUSELF HEILMAN!!!!!!!! FOR THE GOOD OF MANKIND!!!!!!
Comment by foul bunt strikeout
2008-09-21 17:04:08
we’d be better off putting a tee on homeplate than using some of these relievers
Posted by: Durbinator | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:17 PM
Time to add on Jimmy.
Posted by: vegas | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:17 PM
nice slow poke running there moyer to get in the way
Posted by: redbeard | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:19 PM
one man gathers what another man spills
Posted by: vegas | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:20 PM
why is he not ejected for hitting uts?>
Posted by: bensdad00 | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:21 PM
Your 2008 Florida Marlins!
Thank goodness for their fan(s) that they score runs in bunches.
Posted by: Sophist | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:21 PM
dag jays 1st pitch go? ah well scratched a 2 out run
Posted by: koolearl | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:23 PM
CSN has been having scoreboard problems all season. Really weird.
Posted by: John | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:23 PM
Beerleaguer, Beerleaguer ... wherefore art thou, Beerleaguer?
Posted by: G-Town Dave | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:37 PM
G-Town Dave: methinks they're sneaking over to an Eagles blog.
Posted by: clout | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:38 PM
?
Posted by: bensdad00 | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:40 PM
It's only Week 3 in the NFL, & the Phils are fighting for a division title ... if so, that's kinda sad. :-(
Posted by: G-Town Dave | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:40 PM
what are the prefered eagles blogs anyway?
Posted by: bensdad00 | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:41 PM
It's a lot quieter here when the Mets bullpen pitches down to their reputation.
Posted by: EastFallowfield | Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 05:42 PM