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Evil Andy

Frankly, I'm surprised your questioning this deal. Konerko has been consistently over 110 OPS+ for many years, with his Sox career number at 121. Cameron has been wildly inconsistent, amassing more Ks than hits, and hitting 100 fewer HRs. He is a better defender, but that's it. Really apart from 2003 and 2008, what is there to complain about? Y'all snockered the Reds.

Evil Andy

P.S. You need to come over to Phils Beerleaguer a couple times a day to make comments. Give your name as JJ from White Sox Beerleaguer. Don't let our miscreants forget you're here.

JJ Stankevitz

I'm getting into the nitty-gritty of the two players tomorrow, but ultimately I'm not questioning the move. The Sox came out winners in the deal, as evidenced by Konerko's longevity and the grand slam he hit off Chad Qualls in Game 2 of the '05 World Series (among other things).

And I'll be sure to pop over and involve myself in the discussions you guys have on the Phillies site. I'm going to go brush up on my Desi Relaford knowledge, if you'll excuse me.

mechanical turk

Links I suspect we may just see in the near future:


JJ -- White Sox Beerleaguer

Yup. Those exact graphs will be coming across your computer screen tomorrow morning.

T. Egan

I am always interested in looking back at deals that turn out later to have a monumental impact on a team. This is an intriguing analysis of a deal that at the time didn't seem big, but in hindsight was history altering. Outstanding job!

A Noone

Good read. Are you by any chance the JJ from Oak Park IL?

JJ -- White Sox Beerleaguer

A Noone: That's me. Didn't I ump your team in Pony?

A Noone

Ha yes you did. I saw the name and thought it was too big a coincidence

JJ -- White Sox Beerleaguer

Awesome. Small world...thanks for reading!


The drop-off in Bradley’s offense is uaenrl. I agree that the drop-off is strange, but not completely unexplainable. The biggest question is why his power has disappeared. But his batting average has plummeted from last year, largely due to a .388 BABIP last year dropping to a .302 BABIP this year. His career BABIP is .321. So you could argue that he got really damn lucky last year, and has been a little unlucky this year. But the bad news is that his ISO (isolated power) has dropped a lot, both well below his career numbers and his numbers in recent years. If he can recover some of that power, he will be a very productive player for the Cubs.We’ve basically gotten an insane version of Corey Hart…Well the good news is that he really hasn't been insane, at all. He has both kept out of trouble and stayed relatively healthy.

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