Cliff Lee and Julio Teheran square off as the Phillies celebrate Jackie Robinson Day at Citizens Bank Park. First pitch is 7:05. Here's a look at the standings.
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Welcome, Jason. Who let you out? The guards over at Comcast sleeping on their watch?
Posted by: aksmith | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 04:57 PM
Thank you for the new thread for tonight's game, JW - and a "Jump to newest comments" link!
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Here's a bit more on the injury updates:
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/philledin/2014/04/16/injury-updates-hamels-appears-set-for-return-next-week/7788995/
Posted by: GBrettfan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 05:02 PM
NEW THREAD WHAT WHAT
(Thank you!)
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 05:03 PM
I've already forgotten who gave the shortcut of typing in a page number to get to the latest page, but thanks!
Posted by: GBrettfan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 05:04 PM
JW showing his true value. He knows we don't need the smoke and mirrors of a CSN thread header, just a new thread to allow the comments to do their thing (and a JTNC link, to boot!). Thanks for giving a sh8t, JW.
Posted by: Willard Preacher | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 05:08 PM
Surely someone at Comcast could write a script to literally repeat this post every day, with updated content even. The site would keep ticking along on autopilot and they'd never have to look at it again. I'm completely serious here.
Posted by: fumphis | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 05:13 PM
Cyclic, I emailed the beerleaguer at gmail account.
'Buster, I was going to say Natty Light, Keystone, and Pabst. Only thing is, now they are "cool" to drink, whereas in college we drank them because it was $4.99 per case.
Posted by: WSJ | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 05:15 PM
fumphis, would the Phils have to celebrate Jackie Robinson Day every day then? Not that I'm complaining, and they are a day late, anyway...
BTW, I feel like we've sniffed .500 for the last time this season earlier this week. I hope I'm wrong.
Posted by: Willard Preacher | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 05:15 PM
WSJ: Having worked at a college recently, I can tell you that's why they're "cool" to drink. Heck, you know you're bottom-of-the-barrel when South Park centers an entire episode around it instantly lowers anyone who drinks it to "white trash" status.
Posted by: Phillibuster | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 05:18 PM
*around how it
Posted by: Phillibuster | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 05:19 PM
How will we know which crappy BP pitcher wastes Lee's gem when they all wear #42?
Posted by: Conway Twitty | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 05:26 PM
That's easy. He'll be either left or righthanded.
Posted by: aksmith | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 05:26 PM
Do the people who sell scorecards still yell "Can't tell the players without a scorecard" now that they have names on the back?
Posted by: Conway Twitty | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 05:38 PM
Maybe in Yankee stadium.
Posted by: Phillibuster | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 05:40 PM
If Comcast were a baseball team, jw would be the 45-year old ex-star whose bad knees prevent him from running or fielding, but whose occasional pinch hit homeruns still make him the best player on the team.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 05:41 PM
Lee learned a few years ago that if you want a W, you have to get it yourself. Pitch 8-9 innings and get yourself a hit at the plate, too.
Seriously, it'll be Bastardo in the 8th and Paps in the 9th. I'm holding out for seven good innings from Lee. Maybe even eight. Optimism.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 05:49 PM
"Jump to the newest comments"
Love it!
When did the Mets pass us?
Posted by: If the Schu fits | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 05:50 PM
I hear JW's been spotted outside an Arizona bone re-alignment clinic.
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 05:51 PM
The Phillies were 6-7 in 2008.
#YAGOTTABELIEVE
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 05:59 PM
Won't it be Adams tonight? I figure Sandberg will want to see what he's got.
Posted by: Phillibuster | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 06:09 PM
Schu: Mets have one more game played, so technically they're only half a game up on us.
The rain-out is why they're in 3rd.
Posted by: Phillibuster | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 06:10 PM
I hope that Sandberg will know better than to just plug Adams in as "mah 8th inning guy," and instead will look for opportunities to get him some low leverage work at first. But, with this year's bullpen management to date, who knows!
Hopefully, with Lee starting, we'll get to use an "8th inning guy." If we do have a chance to see .500 again any time soon, I'd have to imagine that Lee starting tonight is that best chance.
I'll be curious to see what, if anything, happens to Diekman after Monday's outing coupled with Adams's return.
Posted by: Willard Preacher | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 06:12 PM
"I hope that Sandberg will know better than to just plug Adams in as "mah 8th inning guy,""
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
great stuff
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 06:13 PM
In all seriousness, even sub-optimal Adams is probably a better "8th-inning guy" than just about anyone other than Bastardo or Papelbon (and maybe not even Bastardo).
Honestly, unless the game is razor-close and Lee looks like he can give you another inning, I'd probably be ok with using Adams to start the 8th. He's not the sort of guy you should have to coddle to get his confidence up, especially given his history, so I don't think it'd be unreasonable to use him in the 8th, regardless.
Now, if we had anybody else in the BP who was any better, I'd feel different, but as things are...
Posted by: Phillibuster | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 06:17 PM
I know people will give me sh!t for this, but do we really need to honor Jackie Robinson or anyone else every single year?
It's a marketing gimmick anyway.
Posted by: BobbyD | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 06:46 PM
Time to bring Lannan back into the fold. Put him in the pen. He couldn't do any worse than what we have now.
Posted by: Blofeld | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:07 PM
My heart stopped a little bit as shards of Heyward's bat drifted toward Lee
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:11 PM
I love watching Freddy Galvis play defense.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:13 PM
Same, GBrett. Really thought he was gonna come up with that one.
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:15 PM
Revere looks almost like he's going skiing. Not that I wouldn't be dressed similarly.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:19 PM
Need at least 6 and 2 (or less) tonight to even have a shot at this game from Lee.
Posted by: MG | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:20 PM
Wow. That's Rollins 3-1 swing? Woof.
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:21 PM
If Comcast were a baseball team, jw would be the 45-year old ex-star whose bad knees prevent him from running or fielding, but whose occasional pinch hit homeruns still make him the best player on the team.
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Posted by: NEPP | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:21 PM
Delmon?
Posted by: NEPP | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:26 PM
Defense!
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:26 PM
There's our defensive upgrade making his second egregiously bad play in the last week.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:27 PM
Looked like he tried to catch it like he was playing lacrosse.
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:27 PM
Wow. Revere's catch was as nice as Byrd's fail.
Posted by: Phillibuster | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:27 PM
Revere had to look at his glove to make sure he had it. Phew.
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:27 PM
If only every ball Revere got to was about a foot off the ground when he met it, he'd never make an error.
Posted by: Phillibuster | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:28 PM
Come on, Cliff!
Posted by: GBrettfan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:29 PM
Pipp Revere: putting the excitement back into the extra point.
Over/under on bases cost tonight by Revere's fielding/non-arm/base-running: 5.
Posted by: M. Martinez | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:30 PM
LA is deeply disturbed by the disappearance of errors from the game.
Posted by: Curt | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:31 PM
Even with "hits" like the one off Byrd's glove, Lee's WHIP isn't looking so good this year.
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:31 PM
Interesting to see Galvis get the start at 3B tonight over Asche.
Asche has been battling that hamstring tweak the last week but he has gotten out to a poor start offensively & been really inconsistent defensively.
If Nix/Galvis gets hot, I wouldn't be surprise to see Sandberg ride a hot hand at 3B.
Posted by: MG | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:31 PM
At 34 pitches through 2.
He'll be lucky to finish the 6th at this rate.
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:34 PM
"Over/under on bases cost tonight by Revere's fielding/non-arm/base-running: 5."
You must be watching a different game than everyone else. The rest of us saw Revere make a very nice catch.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:36 PM
Must depend on what the meaning of the word "nice" is vs. routine.
Posted by: M. Martinez | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:37 PM
I'm actually voting for Ethan Martin as most likely bullpen savior/stabilizer.
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:38 PM
Freddy might get on a little hot streak, but is that something Nix can do?
Posted by: GBrettfan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:38 PM
And LA is right on target on Byrd. That was a clear error. The only reason he didn't get it is because of the unnecessary slide.
Posted by: M. Martinez | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:39 PM
When Lee is pitching, PHL17 is a full pitch behind the radio.
Posted by: Conway Twitty | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:45 PM
Count the Phillies who are behind in the count... everyone but JRoll. And Rollins had perhaps the worst swing of any of them on his 3-1 pitch.
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:45 PM
Yayyy. Jackie Robinson. Let's all pretend that blacks are great and whites are evil.
Posted by: Warren Spoon | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:46 PM
All hail St. Jackie the Robinson.
Posted by: Warren Spoon | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:48 PM
Defense!
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:49 PM
Phils have hit some flyballs that might have carried out on a warmer night...
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:53 PM
Best AB of the night. Of course it's Lee.
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 07:57 PM
Game over.
Posted by: NEPP | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:02 PM
Ugh, that was close, too. Nice attempt.
Posted by: Willard Preacher | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:02 PM
Lee missed his spot by about a foot. Awful.
Posted by: Iceman | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:02 PM
Evan Gattis has not taken long to establish himself as a Phillie killer.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:02 PM
PADJR
Posted by: Steve | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:02 PM
Game over.
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:03 PM
That home run should prove to be the game winner if Teheran finishes his perfect game.
Posted by: Willard Preacher | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:03 PM
Feel like TMac's been fooled by quite a few flyballs off the bat today.
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:13 PM
Who had Ryan Howard infield single to break up the perfect game?
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:24 PM
I liked it better when it was going to be Lee v. the other guy. Teheran is tough.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:39 PM
Is this the part of the script where we suddenly start getting good pitching only to see the offense go completely ice cold?
Posted by: NEPP | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:40 PM
The bullpen is really stinking it up tonight.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:42 PM
NEPP-- I feared that might happen.
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:45 PM
Chris Branch @ChrisBranchTNJ 22s
Cliff Lee has 29 career double-digit strikeout games.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:47 PM
I let him start the 8th.
He may be at 96 pitches, but he's cruising.
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:48 PM
I'd let him pitch the 9th.
Posted by: NEPP | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:50 PM
Cyclic: Not to mention, our BP.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:50 PM
Impressive numbers:
Corey Seidman @CoreySeidman 1m
Updated Cliff Lee career vs. Braves: 106.2 innings, 124 strikeouts, 8 walks
Posted by: GBrettfan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:51 PM
Cliff Lee at 50% > Anyone in the bullpen
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:51 PM
So basically Lee has the Braves number?
And yet he's in line for the loss.
Posted by: NEPP | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:51 PM
"I let him start the 8th."
But we've got a rested Diekman, Rosenberg, and Manship ready to take over . . .
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:52 PM
Because it's Teheran pitching, NEPP, and because the Braves' offense is superior to ours.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:54 PM
Well yeah, bap. Depends on the matchups.
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:54 PM
Cliff Lee throwing RH > Anyone in our bullpen.
Posted by: NEPP | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:55 PM
GBrett-- Don't forget it's also because CBP is a bandbox.
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:56 PM
Another bad inning for our bullpen.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:56 PM
In the bullpen's defense, they've hit a few balls hard tonight. Bit of bad BABIP luck happening. Just a bit.
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:57 PM
I'll stop because, tonight notwithstanding, our offense has actually surprised to the upside in the first 13 games. I was merely making the point -- which, in the history of Beerleaguer, has never once been acknowledged by clout -- that sometimes the offense can be the cause of a Phillies loss.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:58 PM
Hell of a game by 42.
Posted by: NEPP | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 08:59 PM
I have a feeling Sandberg will throw Diekman into the fire the way he did Hollands in Texas after his blow up.
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 09:00 PM
Galvis is a good defender.
Posted by: NEPP | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 09:00 PM
Where did Phillibuster get that Freddy Galvis can't play 3rd?
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 09:01 PM
Evan Gattis is really starting to p*ss me off.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 09:03 PM
Galvis is so sweet to watch in the field.
And &^%@$^ Gattis seems to be picking right up where McCann left off.
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 09:04 PM
Cliffie needs to hit a HR if he wants any hope of avoiding a L.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 09:07 PM
At least Sandberg has the good sense to be warming Bastardo, instead of Diekman/Rosenberg/Manship.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 09:08 PM
Isn't Sandberg on record as saying Bastardo is his 8th inning guy?
Posted by: GBrettfan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 09:09 PM
Teheran has been really good tonight. Yet another impressive young Braves' young arm.
Posted by: MG | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 09:10 PM
but, ummmm, bap, there are 2 RHB coming up.
Matchups, duh!
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 09:10 PM
Ooh, Chooch got one of those...what are they called again? Oh, a hit, that's right!
Posted by: NEPP | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 09:12 PM
GBrett: Yeah, but that usually only applies when your team is winning.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 09:12 PM
Genuinely have to tip your cap to Teheran tonight. They've hit some balls hard, but mostly right at the defenders.
Posted by: Cyclic | Wednesday, April 16, 2014 at 09:13 PM