Plenty of Phillies tidbits on Thursday before the team finishes its three-game series against the Brewers.
Let’s get right into it:
Hamels update
Ruben Amaro Jr. told reporters that Cole Hamels (biceps tendinitis) could need just two more rehab starts before making his 2014 debut. The lefty is scheduled to make minor-league rehab appearances on Saturday and April 17, with an April 22 return date as a possibility.
Galvis, Adams update
Amaro also said Freddy Galvis (MRSA) could be activated from the disabled list on Friday, while Mike Adams (shoulder surgery) could return to the Phils’ bullpen on Monday.
Adams has been throwing well in his minor-league rehab appearances, and on Wednesday, Ryne Sandberg said the reliever is “on a fast track” to returning.
Pettibone to start Saturday
The Phillies announced that Jonathan Pettibone will start Saturday against the Marlins. Up to this point, the schedule allowed the Phils to ride a four-man rotation while Hamels worked his way back from the disabled list.
In 18 starts as a rookie last season, the 23-year-old Pettibone went 5-4 with a 4.04 ERA, 66 strikeouts and 38 walks before being shut down because of shoulder soreness.
Ruf, Martin update
Darin Ruf is working his way back from an oblique strain he suffered in spring training. Amaro told reporters that he’s hopeful Ruf will begin doing baseball activities early next week.
Also, according to Amaro, Ethan Martin (shoulder strain) will throw his first bullpen session of his rehab on Friday. Amaro said the organization has decided that Martin will move forward strictly as a reliever.
Tonight's lineups
Oh, and there’s a game tonight (see story). Cliff Lee (2-0, 6.00) opposes Milwaukee right-hander Marco Estrada (0-0, 1.59). Chase Utley returns from the flu. Carlos Ruiz moves in the order … again.
Here are the lineups:
Phillies
1. Ben Revere, CF
2. Jimmy Rollins, SS
3. Chase Utley, 2B
4. Ryan Howard, 1B
5. Marlon Byrd, RF
6. Domonic Brown, LF
7. Carlos Ruiz, C
8. Cody Asche, 3B
9. Cliff Lee, P
Brewers
1. Carlos Gomez, CF
2. Jean Segura, SS
3. Ryan Braun, RF
4. Aramis Ramirez, 3B
5. Jonathan Lucroy, C
6. Khris Davis, LF
7. Mark Reynolds, 1B
8. Rickie Weeks, 2B
9. Marco Estrada, P
No comment.
Posted by: mainerob | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 06:17 PM
"No comment."
Yeah, my mom always told me the same thing about not having anything nice to say...
Posted by: Willard Preacher | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 06:18 PM
So Howard still has issues from his knee injury last July 5th that is hampering him physically and causing him to 'have some restrictions?'
WTF. It is amazing how incompetently the training/medical staff have managed the Phils' players the last 3 years.
Only glad that Utley sought care and advice out of the organization and has been able to overcome it.
http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/sandberg-knee-injury-still-hindering-howards-d
Posted by: MG | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 06:31 PM
We're gonna twirl Ryan's leg to see if that will help.
Posted by: Ruben Amaro, Jr. | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 06:39 PM
"Amaro said the organization has decided that Martin will move forward strictly as a reliever."
Yay!
Posted by: Cyclic | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 06:45 PM
O/U on Adams IP before he heads to the DL again after his 1st appear later this month with the big league club.
I have it at 19.5 and I will take the 'over' but just slightly.
Posted by: MG | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 06:50 PM
MG: Sandberg said it as speculation. Howard said something else. I know you immediately buy into the medical staff issue but please leave your silly bias at the door and address the situation as a whole instead of in part.
Posted by: Reality | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 06:51 PM
"The unfortunate fact is that it wouldn't be worth it for us to trade Howard unless we got a player or prospect who was useful."
I'm not sure there has ever been a comment written on Beerleaguer with which I more strenuously disagree. Not that it will ever happen, but trading Howard for nothing more than salary relief would be the best trade RAJ ever made. You could probably get about 6 good relievers with one year of Ryan Howard's salary. Not to mention that you could immediately replace Howard with a 1st baseman who is probably better.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 06:54 PM
It sounds to me, in that article that MG linked, that Sandberg is just totally BSing around the fact that his Achilles injury is probably still bothering him and never will stop bothering him. That's not exactly something he can come out and say.
It's not a coincidence that Howard has looked like an AARP member out there ever since the last out of 2011. I'm not sure I buy it's lingering effects from a knee injury almost 12 months ago. He's looked awful ever since the surgery.
Posted by: Iceman | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 06:58 PM
Your right Phlipper. The medical staff has handkerchief things well and definitely going to believe Howard is healthy vs his manager staying he is playing hurt.
Posted by: MG | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:11 PM
I am not sure what hankies have to do with it.
And besides I never said the medical staff has handled anything well. Stop making garbage up moron.
Posted by: Reality | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:16 PM
"The medical staff has handkerchief things well and definitely going to believe Howard is healthy vs his manager staying he is playing hurt."
If the Beerleaguer Hall of Fame ever opens a wing devoted solely to MG's malapropisms, "handkerchief" for "handle" is definitely going in there.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:18 PM
This site should have an minimum posting age so the dialogue isn't punctuated with posts that sound like something you'd hear on a sixth grade playground.
Posted by: Hugh Mulcahy | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:19 PM
Ruf to resume baseball activities=being able to grab his crotch while spitting sunflower seeds 6 feet.
Posted by: Conway Twitty | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:24 PM
Full tilt so far.
Posted by: Cyclic | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:27 PM
Early signs are that we might be in for a vintage Cliff Lee performance tonight. I hope I didn't just jinx it.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:28 PM
I came on to express happiness at Cliff Lee's 1-2-3 strike-'em-out inning, but now I can't stop laughing at "handkerchief".
Posted by: GBrettfan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:30 PM
Dinger!
Posted by: Cyclic | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:32 PM
He crushed that ball.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:32 PM
Byrdman!
Posted by: GBrettfan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:32 PM
Byrd is the word.
Posted by: If the Schu fits | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:33 PM
Looks like Byrd was the final word.
Posted by: If the Schu fits | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:40 PM
Well of course he's a good hitter if he's tied for the RBI lead among catchers, TMac.
Imbecile.
Posted by: Cyclic | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:41 PM
More awesome defense!
Posted by: GBrettfan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:41 PM
Byrd isn't the final word.
Posted by: If the Schu fits | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:41 PM
Yeah, that ain't a triple, Tmac...
Posted by: Willard Preacher | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:41 PM
Ugh. Defense.
Posted by: Cyclic | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:42 PM
They should subtract the bases given up from the bases gained, and reduce Byrd's homerun to a single.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:42 PM
Ace.
Posted by: Cyclic | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:43 PM
sigh
LA: "Seems like balls that they hit, the outfielders have to run for days to get to them."
I agree.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:53 PM
Aaaaaaand there goes the lead. Well, that was fun while it lasted.
Posted by: Willard Preacher | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:58 PM
Why the hell was Rollins playing at that depth in the 4th inning? I know this offense sucks, but it doesn't suck badly enough to justify that decision.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 07:58 PM
BAP-
Don't have TV. Was infield in?
Posted by: Hope SE | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:02 PM
This looks like another 3 hankerchief game.
Posted by: Conway Twitty | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:02 PM
Hope: It was. If Rollins had been at normal depth, it was an out. And the irony is that it was a hard-hit ball, so the runner might not have even scored.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:05 PM
Mets leading the Braves early.
Phillies could be alone in last place by game's end.
Posted by: If the Schu fits | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:09 PM
sandberg is quite clearly awful at this whole replay thing. jimmy was safe, it was pretty obvious live and the replay confirmed and yet no challenge.
Posted by: Whatever | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:10 PM
nice play Dom!
Posted by: If the Schu fits | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:13 PM
Lee has had his best stuff of the year so far and even showed a few nice curves tonight. Just wracking up too many aka though and he'll be gone after the 6th.
Posted by: MG | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:14 PM
BAP, thanks.
Posted by: Hope SE | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:14 PM
OUT MOTHER F&^$&#
I hate Gomez so much for some reason.
Posted by: Cyclic | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:16 PM
right gomez was out - but notice that roenicke did the correct thing by going out to talk to the ump anyway, allow his guys to look at the video and give him a thumbs up or down. basically every close play needs to have the manager out on the field if this is how they're going to work the replay system. how long is it going to take sandberg to figure that out?
Posted by: Whatever | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:19 PM
Maybe if Jimmy had protested, the manager would have had a clue.
Posted by: Conway Twitty | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:26 PM
The old school Phil's have made an organizational decision to trust the umps and blow off this fancy replay technology.
Posted by: Curt | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:26 PM
I like Jamie Moyer as a color guy, but this discussion of the father-son duos he played against has gone on about 15 minutes too long. T-Mac's the one with the broadcasting experience. It's on him for letting it drone on.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:32 PM
The Brewers can not leave town fast enough to suit me.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:32 PM
This series is the worst.
Everything the Brewers hit, extra bases.
Everything the Phillies don't hit.
Posted by: Cyclic | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:34 PM
This is one of those games where Lee looks fantastic about 95% of the time, but ends up with a not-so-great line score because of a few bad pitches bunched too close together. Of course, the Phillies' offense is doing him no favors whatsoever.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:35 PM
* I wondered why Ryno didn't challenge that CS call, too.
* Dom did make a nice throw to get the runner at 2B a while ago.
* Cliff is already at 99 pitches. Yay, bullpen soon!
* This made me laugh:
Matt Gelb @magelb 36m
Brewers still riding Hank karma. Phillies will scour surrounding neighborhood for Veterans Stadium feral cats.
(I love Hank the dog & his story, by the way.)
Posted by: GBrettfan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:36 PM
Cesar and Asche sure do have some terrible looking ABs.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:38 PM
Howard is due to bang one hard. It's time.
Posted by: Meyer | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:44 PM
Chicken8hit. Nice to see Howard take the walk.
Posted by: Meyer | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:47 PM
It didn't result in any runs, but I find myself relieved that Howard walked.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:48 PM
Byrd flying down the line. Here we go Dom.
Posted by: Meyer | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:48 PM
I for one am perfectly happy to see Howard work a walk in an RBI situation.
Posted by: Curt | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:49 PM
The Phillies' most trusted reliever: Jeff Manship.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:54 PM
I was happy with Howard's walk, too, but I wish we could score more than one run at a time. Still losing and the BP's in the game for 3 innings.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:59 PM
There's something about seeing our bullpen in the game which suddenly turns all of our defensive players into quivering piles of jelly.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 08:59 PM
And commence blowout.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:00 PM
Manship was just waiting to pitch in an important situation before unveiling the full range of his suckitude.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:01 PM
On the upside, Manship didn't walk anyone.
Posted by: Curt | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:03 PM
What's become of my Phils?
Posted by: Handkerchief | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:05 PM
Good to see the crappy pen dash any hopes of a comeback. Baer needs a larger sample size because he knows what the Phils have in the pen.
Posted by: MG | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:05 PM
Well, at least the bullpen won't be contributing to any losses this season, right?
Posted by: clout | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:07 PM
Maybe if the Phillies knew how to handle their handkerchiefs...or handkerchief their handles. Maybe that's the key to winning.
This is getting old.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:07 PM
Funny that I was also thinking of Baer while watching this implosion. The problem with Baer's "reversion to norms" theory is that 2+ years of data tell us this IS the norm.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:08 PM
I was hopeful for improvement in the 'pen in 2013 because I thought the relievers had gone through growing pains in 2112. And because I thought Adams would be back and healthy and contributing something good.
Flash forward a year and it's the same as before.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:10 PM
Not that it much matters, since the alternatives suck too, but Sandberg continues to completely misuse Diekman. With his 98 MPH fastball, Dikeman has seduced Sandberg into thinking that he can be something more than a LOOGY. But that goofy wind-up only works against LH hitters. A RH hitter can see exactly where the ball is coming from.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:12 PM
Over/under on runs scored by the Phil's tomorrow: .5
Posted by: Curt | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:14 PM
Corey Seidman @CoreySeidman 53s
The Phillies' combination of average offense, average starting pitching, poor defense and terrible relief doesn't seem to be working
Hm, go figure....
Posted by: GBrettfan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:22 PM
GBrettfan - Game #9. I feel your pain. How "old" will it be the first week of August when they get a bunch of AAA filler for Lee, and basically abandon team development when Ryan Howard is abandoned to the 60-day DL with no shot at ever dumping his salary at even $0.01/$1.00?
I really wish this pathetic (uber?) limited partnership had taken their medicine after the 2012 train wreck. Rollins, Utley, Ruiz and (maybe?) Lee could have all brought prospects. Hamels could have been the anchor for the ground-up rebuild.
Unfortunately, Monty, et. al. demanded they get the band back together. Ughh.
To those who derided the former 'fastball' poster for espousing the Astros/Marlins model, those teams are waaay far ahead of your 2014 Fightens. Deal with it.
Posted by: Account Deleted | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:23 PM
Manship had nothing tonight but what do they expect of a AAAA player at best. Kind of guy who only comes on a roster midseason for a short stretch if a roster gets hit with a string of injuries.
Still baffles me though how even Manship is higher on the depth chart than Lincoln. Did Lincoln see Sandberg's oat bran muffin one day early in camp and been in the dog house since?
Can't imagine that Amaro is going to be willing to wait to tweet the pen but likely waits until Adams gets back. Even 80% of Adams is an upgrade over Manship though.
Posted by: MG | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:25 PM
It'll be years before the Phillies can compete with the Marlins and their young talent.
Posted by: Handkerchief | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:25 PM
That extra infield Asche got is already paying dividends.
Posted by: Curt | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:27 PM
Miss me yet????
Posted by: Chris "Wheels" Wheeler | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:27 PM
hell yes i love these highly delusional ownership conspiracy theories. hilarious stuff, keep it coming. especially love that your "anchor" isn't even with the team.
Posted by: Whatever | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:28 PM
Starting pitching hasn't even been average and has been the biggest disappointment to me so far. Teams lion share of fiscal dollars are invested there. If it doesn't carry this team, they have no shot at .500
Posted by: MG | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:30 PM
I love that someone is posting under the handle Handkerchief now. We need all the laughs we can get.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:34 PM
Say, MG, any time that you want to man up and stop welshing on our bet, let me know. It's funny that you keep insisting that I post comments under someone else's name. Why won't you stand behind your assertion?
Man up, dude. Stop trying to hide behind your handkerchief.
Posted by: Phlipper | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:34 PM
8 Ks in 9 G for revere already. Ridiculous for a guy with no power swinging so wildly there when this team desperately needs base runners.
Posted by: MG | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:36 PM
The team stinks.
Posted by: Jack | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:37 PM
The bandana is a very underrated item in my opinion.
Posted by: Bandana | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:40 PM
Pitiful, but in my long term membership still listenable from a distance.
Posted by: Meyer | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:40 PM
Good AB Howard.
Posted by: MG | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:40 PM
There's no way that Howard should have batted there instead of Mayberry, but I suppose all's well that ends (sort of) well.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:41 PM
For that matter, there was no reason not to pinch run for Howard once he reached base. But it's moot now.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:43 PM
No rally for you Phils!
Posted by: MG | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:44 PM
Nice play Dom.
Posted by: MG | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:46 PM
Brewers could be sleepers for the 2nd wildcard.
Posted by: Meyer | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:48 PM
Some rare solid defense by the Phils that inning.
Posted by: MG | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:49 PM
Nice catch, Dom. Made it a clean inning for De Fratus.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:49 PM
De Fratus deserves props for keeping this team from scoring, too.
Per Seidman, Brewers this series: .330 BA, .366 OBP, .583 SLG, 17 XBH
Posted by: GBrettfan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:51 PM
Actually, I've never thought Reality was Phlipper; the complete lack of humor, the frequently mangled sentence construction, the vicious attacks on Jack and BAP, the body-fluid "humor," and the obnoxiously self-important pseudonym itself all screamed Truth Injection to me; note that Reality first came here when TTI announced he was going to Good Phight.
Posted by: Allen Thornberg | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:52 PM
I say we take off and nuke the entire team from orbit. It is the only way to be sure.
Posted by: Ripley | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:53 PM
Hallelujah, this series is over!
Posted by: GBrettfan | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:58 PM
Fitting end to this series. Manhandled by the Brewers including a bludgeoning of the Phils' crappy middle relievers.
Posted by: MG | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:58 PM
If offense wins games in April, tip your cap to the Brewers. I for one have tipped a few.
Posted by: Meyer | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 09:59 PM
Allen Thornberg - Ya' friggin' naiied it in your 09:52 PM. I'm probably disqualified from yakking about such things. but, in 2 words:
Thank you.
Posted by: Account Deleted | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 10:00 PM
Analogy for this series would be the Brewers (epitomized by douche bag Braun) taking the Phils lunch money, giving then an atomic wedgie, and being stuffed in a locker.
Posted by: MG | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 10:01 PM
Oh, yeah, fellers. Leave Phlipper alone. He's a phan - and uses humor. God bless him.
Posted by: Account Deleted | Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 10:02 PM